Monday, 25 September 2017




Seventeen members, and WTC Cllr Joanna Cornford.
Members were welcomed to the meeting especially on such a wet evening, and unanimously agreed to Ray Taylor taking the chair in the absence of Mick Tomlinson. 

Apologies had been received from Don and Maureen Eacott, Vivien Osborne, Tony and Sylvia Sykes, Mick Tomlinson, and KCC Warden Laura Bungard. .  

The minutes of the last meeting, (14/08/17), which had been circulated were agreed as a correct record on a prop. by Tony Snow sec. by Mavis Vaughan, and adopted, and signed.

1)      Barnes Car Park.  Tony Snow clarified the position regarding notices.  The original notice stated “no parking for camper vans” has now been changed to  “no parking or camping overnight”.  A local resident had been seen clearing up rubbish.     

REPORTS: Councillors-KCC, TDC, WTC.  PCSOs and Wardens.

WTC Cllr Joanna Cornford:
1)      Amendments to Street Markings.  Cllr Cornford drew the meeting's attention to various roads Dunstan Avenue, St Benet's Road, and other adjacent roads where there is to be a change of  single /double yellow lines.  Full details may be seen on the TDC website.
2)      Westgate Pavilion.  This is now declared an asset of community value.
3)      Recent Town Council Meeting.  There had been a good attendance at the recent meeting in the new venue, (Christ Church Hall).  The Town Clerk has resigned, and the post has been advertised.
4)      Westgate Flowers.  It was hoped to include hanging baskets next year provided volunteers can be found to water them.  If W&WRA members can do this the appropriate baskets will be labelled “maintained by the W&WRA”.  Chris Wyer thought that use of water retention gel would help. It might be possible to use hydrants if permission is agreed.  The hanging baskets had not been very good this year, this was due to funding confusion which caused late planting.   

KCC Warden Laura Bungard:
Laura had sent in a short report as she is on holiday.  There has been considerable involvement with the removal of untaxed vehicles.  Laura is available by phone or message on 07969583922.  This number is also available at the Bake House. 

CHAIRMAN'S REPORT TDC Cllr Mick Tomlinson: (read by Ray Taylor):
1)      Mick had expressed his apologies about missing the W&WRA monthly meeting but had been called to attend an emergency extraordinary meeting of the Margate Charter Trustees.  This was to discuss monies that had been paid from Margate to the then new Westgate-on-Sea Town Council, about which a complaint had been received.  The basis on which the sum was worked out was not very clear.  Mick will give full details  at the next meeting.

1)      Westgate Community Centre Quiz.  Saturday 23rd September 7.00pm £3.00 per person.  Bring your own food and drink.
2)      Bumblebee Conservation Trust.  Funding has been secured for  this project which will commence in the Autumn.  Any additional volunteers will be welcome to join the Westbrook Group.  Full details will be given presently.
3)      Police Email Messages.  A reminder that police will never request your bank details or send somebody round to transfer money or collect your cash book/pin no/or cheque book.  Any calls of this nature are scam.     

1)      Tower House, 125, Canterbury Road.  Application for new external fire escape spiral staircase torear of building and erection of outbuilding.
2)      11, Westonville Avenue.  Application for part single, part two storey rear extension.
3)      Westcliff House, 37A, Sea Road.  Application for four storey front/side and rear extension with balconies, with alterations to fenestration to facilitate conversion into twenty seven 2-bed apartments, andfour 1-bed apartments with  parking and new pedestrian access.
4)      Land Adjacent to 36, Westgate Bay Avenue.  Application for variation of condition 2 of planning permission F/TH/15/1202 for erection of three terraced dwellings to allow for reposition and enlargement of two dormer windows to the front and three to the rear elevation.
5)      11, Cliff Avenue.  Change of use from residential annexe and rear garden to school (temporary).  GRANTED.
6)      97, Sea Road.  Two storey front side and rear extensions, and balconies to front and rear.  GRANTED.
7)      Land to rear of 15, Victoria Avenue.  Erection of two storey detached dwelling.  GRANTED.
8)      38, St Mildred's Road.  Installation of two condenser units to the rear.  GRANTED.
9)      10, Mutrix Gardens.  Erection of single storey rear extension.  GRANTED.
10)  Gate Lodge, Hundreds Farm Stables, Canterbury Road.  Application for two storey side extension.
11)  33, Minster Road.  Application for erection of single storey rear and side extension following demolition of existing.
12)  31, Rancorn Road.  Variations of conditions 2 and 4 of consent F/TH/16/1502, change of use from sheltered housing to five self contained flats with single storey rear extensions following demolition of rear conservatories. GRANTED.
13)  12, Westcliff Road.  Erection of first floor rear extension, and dormer to side elevation.  GRANTED.
14)  Vodafone, 44, Station Road.  Erection of 14.4 metre monopole with three antennas to replace existing monopole. GRANTED

Sam's report was read out by Ray:
The bank balance stood at £7,378.  Bills for Young's Nursery and the magazine printing had been paid.  £1,289 had been deposited on 21st August which consisted of subscriptions, sales of the chairs, and quiz and tea takings.
Some advertisers had queried receiving invoices when they believed that they had already paid.  Christina Taylor thought this could be due to the fact that the invoices for last year had been sent  out late, and this year's had just gone out, and she would be checking this with Sam.

Ray Taylor reported that articles for the next issue were coming in, any more would be welcome.
The facebook page was going well. 

Mavis reported that just one get well card had been sent this month, which was for our treasurer Sam who had been injured in a fall from a horse.
Christina reported that subscriptions had mostly been paid, and there were thirty eight new members this year so far.
Members expressed their thanks for the excellent tea party and music provided to thank the  road stewards and tea/coffee staff for their hard work.

Westgate Heritage Centre:  Saturday 7th October at 10.30am at St Saviour's Church, “Roxburgh Road”, an illustrated talk by Dr Dawn Crouch. 

Margate Civic Society: Thursday 5th October at 7.30pm at The Walpole Bay Hotel, AGM followed by a talk on “the Secret Gardens of Sandwich” by Steve Edney, (Head Gardener at The Salutation). 

Pat Castle reported that she had sent notice of  meetings and a photograph to the Gazette.

It was agreed that a sub-committee should be formed from the membership.  The actual date of inauguration was nor known at present, but it would seem  sensible to hold the celebrations in the summer.  Possibly the Community Centre or the new centre at the Walmer Castle may be suitable venues.  Ray invited everyone to send in their ideas.

1)      Party 2nd October.
2)      A MacMillan coffee morning will be held at the Bake House on 29th September.
3)      Sunday Lunches.  The next one to be held is on 8th October at The Swan, list for names is in the Bake House.

1)      Repaired Shelter.  Wood knots had come out of the side giving a tatty appearance.  Cllr Cornford said that the Financial and General Purpose committee would be dealing with this.
2)      Punch and Judy Show.  This had been much enjoyed by all.  Chris Wyer was concerned in case an ancient covenant had been contravened. 
3)      Dual Carriageway A28.  It was noted that gutters and drains near the central reservation were blocked.  This should be KCC responsibility, but if no action is taken the subject could be brought up with WTC who will press the matter with KCC.  Members' suggestions included parking bays where the kerb is wide, and speed restrictions of 20mph.
4)      Parking and Residents.  Due to the charges in TDC car parks, notably St Mildred's Bay car park, cars are parked in nearby roads, (Beach Road, Sussex Gardens etc) to the inconvenience of residents whilst the car park remains almost empty. (It was noted that the multi storey car parks in Ramsgate and Margate are free on Saturdays).
5)      Defibrillator.  A member asked where in Westgate this is kept.  Cllr Cornford agreed to find out.
6)      Westgate-on-Sea Town Council. The new office is now up and running.  The W&WRA had requested a donation towards the fund raising MacMillan's coffee morning.  It was noted that there was no mention of the W&WRA in the WTC website, this being due to a contact allegedly saying that it was not required, but it has not been possible to identify the contact concerned.


 Monday 9th October, at the Bake House.

Wednesday, 23 August 2017

WESTGATE AND WESTBROOK Residents' Association Minutes August 2017







Mick Tomlinson (Ch), thirty six members, and WTC Cllr Joanna Cornford.


The chairman welcomed all to the meeting. 



Apologies had been received from Janet Smith.  



The minutes of the last meeting, (10/07/17), which had been circulated were agreed as a correct record on a prop. by Don Eacott sec. by Dee Hooper, and adopted, and signed.



1)      Barnes Car Park.  It was reported that notices had been put up indicating that  camper vans are not to be parked there overnight.    

2)      Westgate Pavilion.  No further information.



REPORTS: Councillors-KCC, TDC, WTC.  PCSOs and Wardens.


WTC Cllr Joanna Cornford:

1)      Town Council Meetings.  These are now to be held in Christ Church Hall, and are open to all, there is full and easy access without stairs, and it is hoped that many residents will come.  The next meeting will be on 5th September start time 7.00pm.

2)      Newsletter.  The latest copy is now out.

3)      Nominations and requests for the two vacancies on the council should be made in writing. 


CHAIRMAN''S REPORT TDC Cllr Mick Tomlinson:

1)      Parking on the Royal Esplanade.  A number of taxis and two mini buses had been left on the road for several weeks.  TDC were aware of this and the road tax, insurance and taxi licences were all in order.  One large vehicle had been  left in Barnes Avenue.  These had been used for the transport of disadvantaged children to school.  The company had become insolvent and most of the vehicles had been removed by transporter lorries.

2)      Parking Charges.  It was noted that the  car park at St Mildred's Bay is usually empty since  charges were introduced, but this is controlled by TDC and it is very difficult for local councillors to take action.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

3)      Post Boxes.  The chairman had been chasing this up, but as yet no  reply had been received.

4)      Developments.  There is no further information on the buildings of the old British Legion and the  Catholic Church in Canterbury Road.  At the Sea Bathing Hospital there is an application for ten terrace houses with high roofs, (this may be seen on line).  The old  toilet block on the promenade at Westbrook have plans in, and will include support for the road.  The Westbrook roundabout has now been cleared and is respectable.

5)      TDC Volunteer Policy.   A large booklet has been produced concerning volunteers for events on council land.  There will be a requirement to fill up forms.  The document may be seen on line.  The chairman will keep the W&WRA informed when more is known.  This may affect the Westgate Against Rubbish group and the Westgate Town Council.

6)      Re the Pavilion and the Lymington Road recreation ground, there is no information as yet



Police email for residents' information:  Vehicles have been broken into and items stolen, be wary of leaving windows open in your house, there are scam phone calls being made in the area.   



1)      160, Canterbury Road, Westgate.  Applcation for alteration to roof, two dormer windows, and single storey rear extension following demolition of existing, and erection of single storey porch to the front.

2)      20, Westcliff Gardens.  Application for erection of ground, first, and second floor extensions with balconies, additional windows at the side, and full length dormer window to front.

3)      16, Cuthbert Road.  Change of use of basement and ground floor from retail to one 1-bedroom flat, removal of shop front and installation of two windows and rear conservatory.  PERMISSION GRANTED.

4)      21, Westcliff Gardens.  Application for erection of ground first and second floor extensions additional windows to side and full length dormer window to front.

5)      44, Royal  Esplanade.  Application for erection of one 4-bed detached dwelling following demolition of detached bungalow.

6)      Westgate Golf Club.  Erection and display of non-illuminated freedtanding sign within car park.  PERMISSION REFUSED.

7)      11, Old Crossing Road.  Erection of single storey front extension. PERMISSION GRANTED.

8)      Castle Cottage, Sussex Gardens.  Application for listeed building consent for installation of French drain.  PERMISSION GRANTED.

9)      27, Elm Grove.  Application for change of use from one dwelling to two 2-bed dwellings with erection of dormers to front and rear, and raising the roof.

10)  83, Sea Road, (St Cecilias).  Application for erection of two storey building incorporating garage to ground floor and one studio flat to first floor following demolition of existing  boundary wall.

11)  4/5, Adrian Square.  Replacement of three single glazed sash windows to front with double glazed vertical slider windows.  PERMISSION REFUSED.

12)  Former Nurses Home RSBH.  Change of use of part of basement to one 2-bed self contained flat.  PERMISSION GRANTED.

13)  4, Bowes Avenue.  Retrospective application for erection of 1.8M fence to front boundary of property.

14)  20-21, Roxburgh Road.  Application for erection of five garages including access onto Edith Road.

15)  10, Carlton Road West.  Application for erection of porch to front elevation.

16)  43, Rancorn Road.  Installation of balcony to rear elevation. PERMISSION GRANTED.

17)  46, St Mildred's Road.  Conversion of former takeaway and residential to retail and three self contained flats, with erection of additional storey to front, and rear extensions following demolition of present rear extensions, also erection of single storey dwelling to rear following demolition of garage. PERMISSION GRANTED.   

Mick reminded the meeting that as a councillor on the planning committee, he cannot make any comment on planning issues but any residents concerned may contact their ward councillor or town councillor.



No new report.  The accounts are in a healthy condition..



Ray Taylor reported that magazines had gone out, and copy for the next issue is required by the end of September.

On behalf of members the chairman warmly thanked Ray for producing the magazine.

James Brazier's kind offer to proof read was gratefully accepted. 



Mavis reported that there had been three bereavements this month and the appropriate cards had been sent on behalf of the W&WRA.



Christina thanked all road stewards for distributing the magazine copies.  There is to be a thank you  tea party on Friday 1st September for road stewards and tea/coffee staff.



Westgate Heritage Centre:  Saturday 2nd September at 10.30am at St Saviour's Church, “Childhood memories of the chalk cliffs and stacks around West Bay.” 

Also for the next two weeks there will be an Art exhibition and a Heritage Centre exhibition in St Saviour's Church.


Margate Civic Society: Regular meetings will resume in the Autumn. 

Heritage Open Day 9th September there will be “open house” for the Town Hall Buildings.

On Red Ensign Day 3rd September, there will be a service by Margate  Town Hall at 12.00noon.



Pat Castle reported that she had given details of this meeting to the Gazette for inclusion in “Down Your Way”, and they had been  published.



The chairman reminded members that this was approaching, and any ideas are welcome for the celebrations.  It was agreed that a sub-committee should be formed from the membership.  A larger venue may be required, and plans should move forward for the celebrations.



1)      A tea at “Strawberry Fields” is arranged for 23rd August.

2)      A MacMillan coffee morning will be held at the Bake House on 29th September.

3)      Other social events to be announced.

For forthcoming events watch the notice board and book your place.



1)      Bunnings Warehouse.  This is a new establishment which is willing to help in the community, and could supply items for BBQs or volunteers to help with jobs.

2)      Westgate Town Council Truck.  James Brazier noted that this had been left outside the depot and wondered if it was to be parked there regularly.  Joanna Cornford did not know but suggested such queries could be answered at the next WTC meeting.

3)      Bumble Bee Trust.  Tony Sykes informed the meeting that funding has been awarded and more details will follow.

4)      Millie's Beach Bar /Restaurant.  Several members reported the opening of this in St Mildred's Bay and commented how well it had been designed and the good selection of food and drinks available.

5)      Recycling Collections.  Chris Wyer reported that the recycling in his road had not been collected for a month, and other members in Westbrook had been missed out the previous week.  Unfortunately there had been problems with TDC phones, but the reason given on their website was due to vehicle breakdown.

6)      Bridge Road Weeds.  Don Eacott reported that these are now large and numerous.   Cllr Ash Ashbee has been chasing  this up with KCC.

7)      Railway Foot Bridge.  Dee Hooper said that the graffiti had been painted over, but not very well, and many lights were still not working and the non-slip surface was coming up.

8)      Rowena Road Derelict Garages.  No further information was available.

9)      Margate Town Council.  The process has started towards forming this, and any comments should be made to TDC by 21st August.




 Monday 11th September, at the Bowls Club.


There being no other business the meeting concluded at 8.45pm.


Thursday, 20 July 2017

WESTGATE AND WESTBROOK Residents' Association Meeting July 2017






Mick Tomlinson (Ch), and twenty members.

After welcoming members to the meeting the chairman recorded with regret the death of W&WRA vice-president Ron Wellingham, and a minute's silence was observed. 



Apologies had been received from Mavis Vaughan and KCC Warden Laura Bungard.  



The minutes of the last meeting, (12/06/17), which had been circulated were amended and then agreed as a correct record on a prop. by Don Eacott sec. by Chris Wyer, and adopted, and signed.



1)      Meeting Procedure.  Maureen Eacott brought up the way in which a limit had been placed on the number of AOB items raised by member Chris Wyer, as she did not think this had been done in the best way.  The chairman apologised to Chris Wyer, explaining that he had been trying to focus the attention of the meeting on items important to all.   

2)      Councillors at W&WRA Meetings.  James Brazier noted that no councillors other than the chairman were present, and members would very much like to hear from them what is proposed to happen in the community.  The chairman had emailed the WTC town clerk (also the KCC councillors), and spoken on the phone with regard to meeting her, and this will be followed up.  James said the second WTC news letter had been held up and residents had not had any reports.  It was suggested that the W&WRA secretary write to the town clerk for information.

3)      Blue Hut and former Putting Green, St Mildred's Bay.  Mick had made enquiries and the “adjacent land” by the hut referred to is only a small area, and the hut is not on the asset list to be sold.

4)      Flowers for Westgate.  This though late had been achieved, the TDC had eventually come up with £1,500 for the flowers.

5)      Camper Vans in Barnes Car Park and on the Grass by the Sunken Garden. Tony Sykes had also seen a camper and had been informed by TDC that Porchlight were trying to find him a home.  Although there had been seven camper vans and a horse box in the car park TDC said there had been no antisocial behaviour.  The chairman said that parking/camping in Barnes Car Park and the Royal Esplanade have been a problem for many years.  Parking on the grass or pathways is illegal, but many trippers down from London are happy to risk a fine.  It is very difficult to get things done with council services as they are, and this includes road sweeping.  Chris Wyer reported that community service workers have been clearing alleyways, and Tony Sykes said the Westgate Against Rubbish group have been doing a great job clearing the roads and beaches, and a vote of thanks was recorded.



REPORTS: Councillors-KCC, TDC, WTC.  PCSOs and Wardens.


KCC Warden Laura Bungard:

Laura had sent in her report which was read by the minute secretary:

Rogue traders have been around calling at residents' doors looking to do driveways, tree cutting, clearing, and gardening.  Estimates are not given and charges may be high.  If concerned call police on 101,or trading standards on 03454 04 05 06.  For a reliable trades person call 0333 0146 190 or email

Windows and doors and sheds should be kept locked.


Government Funding is available to apply for to replace old boilers and central heating, and if required should be applied for now before money is used up.  Apply at


Community Safety Unit. Laura has been out with Gordon Hunt (TDC) dealing with the situation in Rowena Road, the homeless in Westgate, neighbour disputes, untaxed vehicles reports etc.


Laura is happy to take calls regarding issues/problems on 07969 583922. 


TDC Cllr Mick Tomlinson:

1)      Kent County Council.  The area (formally Margate West) has been increased in size and there are now two  KCC councillors, namely Ken Gregory and Emma Dawson.  They have money to allocate to good  schemes in the ward, and application forms are on the website.

2)      Westgate Pavilion.  The TDC wish to dispose of this.  The London School of English would like to purchase it but TDC are not minded to let them buy it.  Disabled access has been a problem for some time and it is alleged that money was put aside for this but the work has never been carried out.  Chris Wyer pointed out that this is the only building available that could take a large meeting.

3)      Parking – Extraordinary Cabinet Meeting.  The meeting is in response for residents only parking in certain parks in Broadstairs and Ramsgate.  This does not affect proposals for Westbrook and Westgate or any on street parking proposals.

4)      Manston Airport.  There has been a very good  presentation by River Oak, details of which will go to the  cabinet.





Nil.  Items locally covered by KCC Warden Laura's report (page 2 above).





1)      14, Hundreds Close, Westgate.  Application for erection of two storey rear extension.

2)      Land North West of Seabathing Hospital.  Application for erection of ten 2 bedroom dwellings with parking, landscaping, and access.

3)      10, Mutrix Gardens. Application for erection of single storey rear extension.

4)      38, St Mildred's Road.  Application for installation of two condenser units to rear elevation.

5)      Former Nurses Home, Royal Sea Bathing Hospital.  Application for change of use of part of basement to one 2 bedroom self contained flat.

6)      97, Sea Road, Westgate.  Application for erection of two storey front and rear extensions, creation of balconies to front and rear, and external stone and timber cladding.

7)      Vodafone, 44, Station Road, Westgate..  Application for erection of 14.4 metre pole with three antennas to replace existing monopole together with new cabinets and access gates.

8)      16, Canterbury Road, Westgate.  GRANTED permission for erection of two storey side extension.  



No new report.  The recent report made at the committee meeting on 26th June 2017, showed the bank balance stood at £5,230.



Ray Taylor is preparing the next magazine which should be ready for August. 



The death of member Connie Foad was recorded with regret.



Christina reported that the membership data base has now been computerised.  The road stewards' lists will have a similar layout to the previous ones.



Westgate Heritage Centre:  Saturday 5th August at 10.30am at St Saviour's Church, a talk “Westgate-on-Sea in August 1917” by Dr Dawn Crouch.


Margate Civic Society: Regular meetings will resume in the Autumn. 

Heritage Open Day in September there will be “open house” for the Town Hall Buildings with Dr Dawn crouch and Joanna Cornford.

160 years of Margate as a Borough exhibition in the Museum Saturday 29th July.



1)      Sunday Lunches at the Swan are enjoyed and the next one is scheduled for 23rd July.

2)      29th July A number of members are going on the Carol Peters trip to a garden centre.

3)      Quiz Night at the Bake House was enjoyed by all who attended, Mick Tomlinson was warmly thanked for preparing this.

For forthcoming events watch the notice board and book your place.



1)      Post Boxes.  Tony Snow pointed out these were in a poor state, and the matter was taken up in 2016 when a reply was received stating that they would be repaired  by March 2017.  Mick agreed to chase this up.

2)      Caravans Parked in Roads.  Chris Wyer had observed caravans with jacks down and questioned the legality of this.  There was also a mobile home parked by  the bridge in Westbrook, (near the former office of Wright Tanton & Co).

3)      New Zebra Crossing.  This had been suggested near to the place where a child had been killed on the road.  Now the inquest had been completed councillors could be approached for consideration of a grant.

4)      Memorial Benches.  These were discussed as sometimes they were dressed with flowers or T shirts to the extent that it was difficult to sit on them. Regarding unauthorised memorials KCC Highways  should be able to give advice.

5)      Sunken Garden Seat.  Member Bob Loxley pointed out that a bench had suffered partial damage from fire and required attention.



 Monday 14th August, at the Bake House.



There being no other business the meeting concluded at 8.50pm.