Friday, 12 December 2014

Westgate and Westbrook Residents' meeting December 2014


WESTGATE AND WESTBROOK

RESIDENTS’ ASSOCIATION

 MINUTES OF A GENERAL MEETING HELD AT THE TOWN HALL BUILDINGS ON MONDAY 8th  DECEMBER 2014 AT 7.15PM.

 

PRESENT


Tom King, chairman and councillor, forty members, and KCC Cllr Jeff Elenor.


The chairman welcomed all to the meeting.

 
APOLOGIES

Apologies had been received from Chris Smith.

 
CHAIRMAN’S REPORT

 
1)      Village Green (Town Green) Application Outcome.  Tom introduced Graham Rickett who spoke to the meeting about the application which commenced over three years ago. The application was successful however the land had been donated to King Ethelbert School by KCC in 2010, and an appeal against the finding had been made, and since rejected.  A further appeal for an oral hearing had been made against KCC, but the Judge had concluded that there was no case for review, and the seven days period  for appeal against this  had now elapsed.   Local residents have chosen the name “Linksfield Town Green”, and there are plans to apply for lottery fund money.  There are seventeen varieties of butterfly present, and the Holm Oaks are ideal for egg laying.  Kent Wildlife is to help manage the area, and a community page is to be set up to inform residents what may be found there.
2)      Thanet Local Plan.  Tom informed the meeting that this is being  put together and will be referred to for future decisions.  Birchington, Westgate, Garlinge, Manston, and Westwood are included, and strategic sites for 1,000 houses have been identified each side of Minster Road across from Birchington to Garlinge. This has been identified as much of the necessary infrastructure is thought to be already in place.  Consultation is to take place from 5th January to 20th February 2015, Tom would like to see a longer period as these are such major works, and public meetings should be held.  There will be road shows, drop in meetings, and information on the TDC website.  Both KCC Cllr Jeff Elenor and Graham Rickett said that present footpaths should continue to be used, and would become an issue.  There is concern about sufficient cover by Doctors and Dentists for the increasing number of people, and that residents need to be kept informed.  It was noted that the Thanet Plan had not featured in the local press.
3)      Parish Council.  At the recent TDC meeting the PC for Westgate was ratified, and it was agreed that the Charter Trustee System for Margate will continue.  Tom said he had been observing some local parish councils and these seem to have achieved very good results, which bodes well for Westgate.  The Parish Council will be elected in May 2015, and during the first year will formulate a list of services to provide.  James Brazier reminded the meeting that the precepts would be increased and the assets of the Charter Trustees will be split.  Tom thought the improvements would be well worth the extra precept.    

 
MINUTES OF LAST MEETING

The minutes of the last meeting, (10th November 2014), which had been circulated, were adopted on a prop by Don Eacott sec by Dave Morris, and signed.

 
MATTERS ARISING

1)      34, Westgate Bay Avenue.  No applications for planning had been received for this site.  Part of the front wall was still  down.

2)      TDC Chief Executive.  Details of this post are at present subject to total confidentiality.

3)      St Mildred's Bay Slipway.  TDC Officers have agreed to place railings at the side of the slipway to improve safety.

4)      41, Royal Esplanade.  The planning application for this site has been withdrawn. 

 
COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS

KCC Cllr Jeff Elenor:

1)      Zebra Crossing.  In answer to questions Jeff said that the design and  costing for the crossing in Westgate Bay Avenue are being planned, the precise location has not as yet been decided, and such consultation does take time.  One member who thought that Westgate roads were becoming more dangerous thought there should be speed limits of 20mph and more crossings as in Birchington.  Jeff has given all his grant to the Westgate crossing which hopefully may have an island to help pedestrians.  Other members thought there should be enforcement of no parking next to the crossing and round the corners of the road junctions.    

2)      Station Road.  The new surface has been well received, but it was disappointing that it had already been dug up for works to the gas supply.

3)      Airport Capacity in the South East.  There had been hostility to a proposal of a third runway at Gatwick, and a minister is coming down shortly to look again  at Manston.

4)      Relocation of Margate Market.  This will now be in Cecil Square.

5)      Thanet Plan and Developments.  Alongside these, 106 agreements could be beneficial to the area and should be considered.

6)      Thanet Sewers.  These are due for servicing and repair.

7)      Local Children's Nurseries.  It had been brought to Tom's notice that a local children's nursery had had notice of funding to be discontinued.  Support was asked for and many members signed the petition at the meeting.  Westgate, especially with development possible, cannot afford to lose nurseries.

 PLANNING

1)      2/62, Cuthbert Road.  Application for permission to erect external staircase to rear first floor.

2)      Westbrook Road.   Application for HMO.  Refused. 

 TREASURER'S REPORT

Samantha Secomb presented the accounts, fully audited and in order.

The current bank balance stands at £6,543 and from this it will be possible to make a donation to the Westgate Community Association of £1,000, subject to the agreement of members.    Since this year the Charter trustees are not supplying a Christmas tree for Westgate, one has been purchased by the W&WRA for £300.   Business rates for the office space in the Town Hall Building of £196 have been paid.

 EDITOR’S REPORT

Derek thanked those members who had sent in articles, and requested more for the  next edition.

 

SUNSHINE REPORT         None

MEMBERSHIP                   None

 CIVIC REPORT

Westgate Heritage Centre (in St Saviour's Church).  Next meeting is Saturday 3rd January at 10.30am when there will be a talk by Dr Dawn Crouch about the Tower House, Canterbury Road.

 
PRESS REPORT

Richard told the meeting that last month's report had been published in two halves on consecutive weeks, so he will condense the next report.

 SOCIAL

1)      Quiz Night.  November's quiz was good and the next one is in February.

2)      Christmas Party.  This Wednesday.

3)      New Year Lunch.  Sunday 11th January at St Augustines.  A few places still available.

4)      Trips/Outings.  Ideas and suggestions welcome for next year's programme,  there is a list in the Bake House.

 
ANY OTHER BUSINESS

1)      Councillors.  It was noted that, though invited, very few councillors attend W&WRA meetings, and members asked if attendance records for the year could be made available.

 
NEXT MEETING

 Monday 12th January, in the Westbrook Bowls Club.

 

There being no other business the meeting concluded at 8.40pm.

 

Tuesday, 9 December 2014

1,000 New Homes for Westgate

Residents' Meeting 8th December 2014

A bombshell was dropped at the Westgate and Westbrook Residents meeting last night. Chairman Tom King reported that the Thanet Local Plan policy on housing was to build 10,000 homes in Thanet of which 1,000 will be build at the south end of Westgate and Garlinge on green agricultural land.

The proposed development would stretch west of Minster Road to Quex and to the east to Garlinge and Dent de Lion.  Houses on the East side of Belmont Road which at present back on to farmland will back on to a large housing estate.
A plan of the proposed development can be found on this link at page 26 and details page 59 of attached document. http://democracy.thanet.gov.uk/documents/g3938/Public%20reports%20pack%2027th-Nov-2014%2019.00%20Overview%20and%20Scrutiny%20Panel.pdf?T=10

This document is 256 pages long and contains many other controversial plans. Opinions expressed last night at the meeting were that a public consultation of 6 weeks in the New Year is not enough. Looking at the plan to read it all would probably take longer than reading "War and Peace." Having skimmed through the many pages there does not appear to be any reference, correct me if I am wrong, to where we are going to get the water to supply all these dwellings and where is all the sewage going. Southern Water cannot cope with current demands I hate to think what the building of 10,000 home will do.

Another area concerns Westbrook and the suggestion to use 'Barnes' Westbrook promenade car park as a coach park. This is ridiculous when we are trying to develop tourism. Coaches should be able to drop off and then coach parking should be provide away from the coast. This would leave our tourist sites more accessible. This car park is used all the year round and is often full in the summertime. Fill it with coaches and tourists will then be parking in the surrounding streets. The Beach Management Plan has suggested this site be used for motorhomes so there is a conflict there.

I would suggest that you read this plan and participate in the consultation. The future of our towns and villages depends on it.

Thursday, 13 November 2014

Westgate and Westbrook Residents' Meeting November 2014


WESTGATE AND WESTBROOK RESIDENTS’ ASSOCIATION

MINUTES OF A GENERAL MEETING HELD AT THE TOWN HALL BUILDINGS ON MONDAY 10th  NOVEMBER 2014 AT 7.15PM.


 

PRESENT


Tom King, chairman and councillor, thirty six members, and KCC Cllr Jeff Elenor.

 

The chairman welcomed all to the meeting.

 

APOLOGIES

Apologies had been received from Richard Charlton and Derek and Chris Smith.

 

CHAIRMAN’S REPORT

 

1)      Review of Governance Arrangements.  There is to be an extraordinary meeting at TDC to consider the recommendations of the working party: That a Westgate-on-Sea Parish Council be created, and that the remainder of Margate should retain the Charter Trustees.  There had been letters, leaflets, meetings, consultations, press adverts, publicity teams, tweets twice a day, with copies of the information sent to libraries and community groups prior to the recommendation.  Public meetings had been held in Westgate and Margate and had been attended by 100 and 20 persons respectively.  There appeared to be a good deal of interest in forming a Westgate Parish Council, but little interest in one for Margate.  If the recommendations are ratified questions are likely to arise and Tom has been in touch with the democratic services manager, and the finance and legal officers.  

Questions were then invited from the floor: These included arrangements for a shadow PC as in other areas, a more accurate estimate for the cost of the precept (as in band D) which is £36, not £24, and the additional precept that will be required in the council tax as fewer households will be contributing towards the Margate Charter Trustees.  It was noted that these points had not been taken up by the local press.   The effect on the W&WRA was raised, Tom felt that the relationship between PCs and RAs should be constructive (although it has been known for them not to get along).  He expressed the opinion that for a member of the W&WRA to be also on the Parish Council could be a conflict of interest.  The meeting is to be held on 18th November at 7.00pm at the TDC chambers and the public gallery is available for residents.

2)      St Mildred's Bay Slipway.  It had been pointed out that there were no railings on one side of the slipway and a dog had fallen and injured itself here, and this could possibly happen to a child.  Tom is to see Mike Humber of TDC.

3)      Westgate Bay Avenue/Dent-de-Lion Road.  Blocked drains had been reported after the rain, but the cause was due to leaves requiring removal and Tom has contacted TDC  for action.

4)      Elm Grove by St Saviour's School.  It had been reported that a nearby site had been cleared, but Tom confirmed that no planning applications had  been received.

5)      ASB Dispersal Notices.  Ethelbert Square and the Station areas had been much better, residents have asked that the benches be re-sited to reduce possible nuisance and this had been agreed.

6)      Footpath Lights, between Ursuline and King Ethelbert Schools.  None of the lights are working, and Tom reported that these are the responsibility of TDC (not KCC), although KCC are obtaining an estimate for TDC.   

 

  MINUTES OF LAST MEETING

The minutes of the last meeting, (13th October 2014), which had been circulated, were adopted on a prop by Don Eacott sec by Tony Snow, and signed.

 

MATTERS ARISING

1)      34, Westgate Bay Avenue.  A substantial part of the wall had been knocked down, as yet Tom had been unable to contact planning enforcement, and is watching to see if there should be any planning applications.  There are trees on site and Tom has arranged to receive copies of all applications for tree work.

2)      St Mildred's Bay Car Park.  Tom had spoken to Mr Smith of TDC who said the car park was under used, one member asked if they were taking any money now as it appears that motorists are completely avoiding it.  The general feeling of the meeting was that residents would prefer to pay by using a meter as before, as there were complications with the new arrangements, not everyone has mobile phones or can get a signal in the venue, and many were concerned about the security of giving out card numbers over the phone. The charges are not displayed on the notices.

3)      W&WRA Accounts.  Tom confirmed that these have now been  audited and will be ready  this week and made available to members.

4)      TDC Chief Executive.  James Brazier asked if the chief executive was coming back as she was still on the payroll.  Tom said that this was not yet known. 

 

COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS

KCC Cllr Jeff Elenor:

1)      St Mildred's and Station Roads.  Members were very pleased with the resurfacing of these roads. 

2)      Hospice Fundraising Event.  This had been supported by Brenda Blethin and been very successful. 

3)      “Essential Furniture”.  Jeff told the meeting that this company takes and will collect good second hand furniture which is placed at reasonable prices according to need.  They are at present in Hersden but are planning to have a place in Margate.

4)      Westgate Bay Avenue Crossing.  Jeff has put much of his member's discretionary funding towards this, as some older residents have difficulty crossing this road and could become isolated.

 

CORRESPONDENCE

1)      Promenade Bins and Lifebuoys.  The extra (seasonal) bins had been removed, unfortunately the lifebuoys had been vandalised five times recently.

2)      Public Address System.  This had been purchased with the KCC grant.  It is transportable and may also be used with battery power.  It is for the community, and has been used by Westgate Community Centre.

3)      Police Community Messages (received by email).  Minor crimes in the area included vehicles being broken into and windows smashed, and hubcaps stolen.  Some households had received flyers bearing the wording “important notice” and an address “RSL Metro House” This is a scam and should be disregarded.   

 

PLANNING

1)      14 Wellesley Road.  Application for permission to erect part one storey and part two storey extension following demolition of existing extension.

2)      22, Carlton Road West.  Application for permission to erect a single storey front and side extension, and alteration to roof.

3)      20 Carlton Road East.  Retrospective application for permission for french doors and first floor balcony. 

4)      41 Royal Esplanade.  Application to demolish existing  house and build blocks of flats.  This application  has caused great concern and a petition is going round. If this was allowed it would set a precedent.  Ward councillor Mick Tomlinson is calling it in.  Tom thought the hearing may be in about two months time, on the third Wednesday during which the public may attend.

 

TREASURER'S REPORT  None.

EDITOR’S REPORT          None.

SUNSHINE REPORT         None

MEMBERSHIP                   None

 

CIVIC REPORT

Westgate Heritage Centre (in St Saviour's Church).  Next meeting is Saturday 6th December at 10.30am when there will be a talk by Dr Dawn Crouch and Sally Whitworth about their research into the names on the war memorial boards of Wellington House School.

 

SOCIAL

1)      Quiz Night.  To be held on Wednesday 19th November at the Bake House.

2)      Christmas Party.  All welcome.

3)      New Year Lunch.  Sunday 11th January at St Augustines.  Booking forms and menus available from the Bake House, names and deposits required by 24th November.

Also there is a talk on “Defence of Thanet in WW2” at the Community Centre on 20th November at 7.30pm.

 

ANY OTHER BUSINESS

1)      Fly Tipping.  Tony Sykes reported that fly tipping has taken place in the Barnes car park, on informing TDC they had very promptly cleared this up. 

2)      CAAG Groups.  Chris Wyer reported that both Westgate and Margate had written to oppose the proposed development at 41 Royal Esplanade.

 

NEXT MEETING

 Monday 8th December, as it is the Christmas meeting it will be held again in the Town Hall Building.

There being no other business the meeting concluded at 8.30pm.